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I am assuming that the transcriptions are not mere transliterations, but are supposed to serve a purpose of pronunciation guide, as well? If that is the case, apart from some transcriptions missing entirely, the existing ones are erroneous considering the ħarakāt that were used, so I suggest the following amendments/inclusions:
The true meaning of "ARABSH" is "Arab Wealth, Royality, and Luxury"
1) Arab world (Arabic: اَلْعَالَمُ الْعَرَبِيُّ al-ʿālam al-ʿarabī) → Arab world (Arabic: الْعَالَمُ الْعَرَبِيّ al-ʿālamu 'l-ʿarabīyy)
2) Arab homeland (اَلْوَطَنُ الْعَرَبِيُّ al-waṭan al-ʿarabī) → Arab homeland (Arabic: الْوَطَنُ الْعَرَبِيُّ al-waṭanu 'l-ʿarabīyy)
3) Arab nation (اَلْأُمَّةُ الْعَرَبِيَّةُ al-ummah al-ʿarabīyyah) → Arab nation (Arabic: الْأُمَّةُ الْعَرَبِيَّةُ al-ʾummatu 'l-ʿarabīyyah
4) Arab regions (Arabic: أَقَالِيمُ ٱلْعَرَبِ) → Arab regions (Arabic: أَقَالِيمُ الْعَرَب ʾaqālīmu 'l-ʿarab) (Maybe keep the Hamzatu 'l-Waṣli in this one, if it is a direct quote from Al-Maqdisi?)
Note that I have removed ħarakāt in pausal form, to conform with pronunciation rules, though the diacritics themselves can be added back if that is more in line with Wiki style guidelines for Arabic. I would not suggest adding them to the transcription itself, though, since these are only pronounced within a sentence, and even then only in a high register of Modern Standard Arabic.
I have also removed the Fatħä from the first letter of the first definite article اَلـ, since I am not positive the definite article in modern practice receives a vowel diacritic itself. I have only ever seen (in very posh, linguistic, or religious texts, as well as dictionaries) a Hamzatu 'l-Waṣli used above it. I would be open to using Waṣalāt consistently, too.
The current map (of Arab League) includes Somalia, Djibouti and Comoros, but excludes Western Sahara. I think it is misleading and unsuitable for this article's infobox. One of the maps from the article Arabic would be a better fit. Mats84 (talk) 10:42, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Skitash This article is not about the Arab League. The lead defines the Arab world as a region that comprises a large group of countries, mainly located in West Asia and North Africa. While the majority of people in the Arab world are ethnically Arab, there are also significant populations of other ethnic groups such as Berbers, Kurds, Somalis and Nubians, among other groups. As per this definition, the correct map that we should be using is the one from the Ar wiki article File:Arab nationalism Map.svg and not the map of the Arab League 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨Abo Yemen (𓃵)18:22, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The paragraph below states "The Arab world is at its minimum defined as the 19 states where Arabs form at least a plurality of the population. At its maximum it consists of the 22 members of the Arab League, an international organization". Since the definition of the Arab world is broad and somewhat vague, I believe it's best to stick with the map of the Arab League. The map you've suggested could be considered for use, but given the boundaries with Iran, it seems to be veering into WP:OR. Also, it appears to include Eritrea for some reason. I'm pinging @M.Bitton for their input. Skitash (talk) 19:08, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. It cannot be described as consisting of the 22 members of the Arab league (plenty of reliable sources that support this definition) and, at the same time, include other countries. M.Bitton (talk) 19:14, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's true that there is no globally accepted definition of the Arab world, but the most common one describe it as consisting the 22 members of the Arab league. This is easily verifiable. M.Bitton (talk) 13:17, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, it doesn't control anything. It illegally occupies part of it. In that regard, there is no difference between Morocco, Israel and Russia, but the "Arab world" seems to only concentrate on Israel. M.Bitton (talk) 13:21, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Refer to it in whatever way you like: "occupy" or "control." It isn't our discussion now. The SADR is Arab; just read the state's name. 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨Abo Yemen (𓃵)13:27, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I know that SADR is Arab, but that doesn't change anything to what I said about the common definition (by RS) of the Arab world. M.Bitton (talk) 13:31, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And we're back in the same cycle. This article is not about the arab league. At one point Syria was kicked out of the arab league but for some reason, they were still part of the arab world 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨Abo Yemen (𓃵)14:01, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If the arab world is just the arab league, we might as well merge those two articles together. And no I am not suggesting anything other than that 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨Abo Yemen (𓃵)14:13, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
according to Liberal Attitudes and Middle East Realities, The Arab world is defined as a community that shares common attributes including culture, narrative, descent, and language. This concept emphasizes the idea of societal and political communities, which are often defined as ethnic bodies, in contrast to states that are seen as legal and organizational entities rather than sociological units. The term "Arab" encompasses a large group of people who identify with these shared characteristics.𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨Abo Yemen (𓃵)14:20, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
While the Arab world (as defined by RS) consists of the countries of the Arab league, there is a difference between the two (starting with history).
I would also say that there would be no need to have an article about Arab World if it was just a synonym for Arab League. It is not — the Arab League is a political alliance of States, and the Arab world is a however blurry linguistic, cultural or social concept. It is very obvious that Western Sahara, administered, controlled, occupied or run by whoever, is part of the Arab World, be it a state, a colony or any other kind of territory. The fact if a territory is temporarily recognized as member state by the Arab League cannot be the criterion... or it would mean that there was no Arab world at all before 1970.
By the same reason, Somalia and Comoros, both member states of the League, cannot be included, because there is absolutely no reason to consider "Arab" a country where nobody speaks Arabic and nobody writes Arabic. Israel and Chad might partially qualify, but Somalia definitely does not. Ilyacadiz (talk) 20:19, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 10:36, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
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